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Vladimir:
Ovi kad dođu sa posla uđu u zamrzivač da se malo ugreju 😃
Zamrzivač se ni ne uključuje. 😃

Čeliče se pre prvih koraka.
Noi in mezzo alla strada
 
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On 12/21/17 04:12 PM, cpforum wrote:
Hello,

Were can I found an IPS url for Gnome 3.X repository for OpenIndiana Hipster ?
Someone post info about Gnome 3 one or two years ago in this list.

Hello.
Nowhere. I don’t remember any developer interested in Gnome 3 on OI.​

Best regards,
Alexander Pyhalov,
system administrator of Southern Federal University IT department

😂
 
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Kratko i jasno {1f595} :D:D:D
 
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Inače ko voli malo leda… 🙂 Lep dokumentarac

 
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Suvo zlato u srcu Zemuna 😃 Odgledati do kraja fenomenalno je.
To je taj nivo alkoholizma kad drugare alkoholicare zoves kolege !
 
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Boga mi meni apetit nema veze sa praznicima 😃

Jagnjetinu bih mogao da jedem uvek {1f410}
 
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Vladimir:
Jagnjetinu bih mogao da jedem uvek
Ima novih mesta za koja kažu da je jaga dobra…moramo probamo, da proverimo glasine 😉
 
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Lakše svirati nego kopati…ali bukvalno 😃

 
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Kernel-memory-leaking Intel processor design flaw forces Linux, Windows redesign
Crucially, these updates to both Linux and Windows will incur a performance hit on Intel products. The effects are still being benchmarked, however we’re looking at a ballpark figure of five to 30 per cent slow down, depending on the task and the processor model.
или још детаљније:
What’s behind the Intel design flaw forcing numerous patches?
Again it’s not entirely clear, but indications are that every Intel chip with speculative execution (which is all the mainstream processors introduced since the Pentium Pro, from 1995) can leak information this way.
 
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every Intel chip with speculative execution (which is all the mainstream processors introduced since the Pentium Pro, from 1995) can leak information this way.

It’s not a defect, it’s a feature… 😃
 
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Sinoć su mi stigla obaveštenja od provajdera kod kojih imamo dedicated mašinu o topljenju i greškama… na sreću mašina je OK medjutim redudantnost kao bekap je na gotovs, nadam se da nećemo biti offline.

CVE-2017-5753
CVE-2017-5715
CVE-2017-5754
 
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Опа, мишуре…
Intel CEO Brian Krzanich sold ~$24M of stock in Nov. and now owns 250K shares, the minimum he’s required to hold; Intel was informed about chip flaws in June

Још увек се не зна детаљно, али…
Which systems are affected by Meltdown?
Desktop, Laptop, and Cloud computers may be affected by Meltdown. More technically, every Intel processor which implements out-of-order execution is potentially affected, which is effectively every processor since 1995 (except Intel Itanium and Intel Atom before 2013).
Which systems are affected by Spectre?
Almost every system is affected by Spectre: Desktops, Laptops, Cloud Servers, as well as Smartphones. More specifically, all modern processors capable of keeping many instructions in flight are potentially vulnerable. In particular, we have verified Spectre on Intel, AMD, and ARM processors.
Meltdown and Spectre
 
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Sada isplivavaju detalji da se ovo znalo godinama unazad i potez direktora o prodaji deonica jasno pokazuje upravo to.

Prilika za AMD da im se… načestita nove godine 🙂

Šalu na stranu, ovo može da poljulja Intel do te mere da budu pred bankrotom. Medjutim ovaj “propust” nije slučajno nastao, ja sam mišljenja da je ovo sve planski odrađeno iz nekog višeg interesa ili razloga.
 
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^ I AMD i ARM procesori imaju taj propust. Tako da svi mogu kolektivno da čestitaju jedni drugima. 🙂

Ništa se neće promeniti. Ovo će zakrpiti hiljadama linija koda. Pojaviće se novi bezbednosni propusti za neke nove procesore koje će slučajno da objave 2035. godine.
 
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Neće biti da se obostrano čestitaju, Intel je mnogo više u sranju nego AMD… dalekoooo više.

AMD je ranjiv samo na prvu varijantu Spectre (intel je na sve tri), dok Meltdown kod njih ne prolazi uopšte.

Problem u tome je što to jednostavno ne može da se ispravi jer je HW propust a ne softverski… pokušaće da se pristupi rešenju tako što će se raditi zaobilazni putevi kako bi se preko softvera ublažila rupa… medjutim kao što je jedan blog napisao, moraćemo da živimo sa tim da će od sada pa nadalje zbog tog propusta uvek biti moguće da kada se fizički pristupi procesoru i kada se postavi odgovarajući OS koji nema patch kernel memorija će moći da se hakuje.

Ono što je olakšavajuće u celoj toj priči jeste što je za sada extremno teško uopšte hakovati ovim putem procesore, ali je ipak moguće.
 
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Vladimir:
moraćemo da živimo sa tim da će od sada pa nadalje zbog tog propusta uvek biti moguće da kada se fizički pristupi procesoru i kada se postavi odgovarajući OS koji nema patch kernel memorija će moći da se hakuje.
Нема потребе за физичким приступом, довољан је Javascript (к’о и увек :D):
Mozilla confirmed everybody’s worst fear, that both Meltdown and Spectre are remotely exploitable by embedding attack code in mundane JavaScript files delivered via web pages.
Наравно, нешто попут uBО-а може да помогне, е сад, до које мере, питање је.
 
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